Baker & Related Families of Southwest Virginia

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NEW INFO! John Baker-evidence of Lineage
April 7, 2016 - 9:30:56 p.m.

During recent research at the library of Virginia, I came across some previously unseen data in a Pulaski County Virginia records file. This shows the death of a Matilda Baker, wife of John Baker, daughter of Beverly Thacker, born in TN. Matilda died in 1853 of measles. This is of interest because I have long looked at the fact that Great Great Grandfather George W Baker is listed as living with the Akers family in 1860 in Hiwassee in 1860, and there was an Eliza Baker, age 11, living nearby with a Covington family. Why two young Baker children, similar in age, appearing to be orphans? Are they related?  So digging further into Matilda and John Baker, I found a 1850 census in Surrey, NC that lists John and Matilda Baker, with Eliza J, age 1. There are also marriage records for John Baker and Eliza Thacker in next door Stokes County, NC. Father Beverly Thacker also lived in Surrey County NC in 1850. In 1850 Matilda was about 32 years old, and John is shown as 52 years old, and his birthplace is listed as Virginia. I found subsequent records showing Eliza's marriage, her move to Tennesse, and children. One of her sons is buried in Grayson County.

George lists his father as John, and his birth on differerent records in both NC and VA. Having reviewed records available, I can find no other record of a John Baker livng in Pulaski County in this time frame. So it appears fairly obvious that John may have been left, at age 55 in 1853, widowed with two young children. 1860 is probably the first record of George, because since he was born in about 1850, it is likely during the 1850 census in that Matilda may have been pregnant with George W. and then they moved to Pulaski county between 1850 and 1853. John appears to have "dissappeared" from records after the 1853 record of death of Matilda. 

So I suspect that he may have also died from the measles, or felt he couldn't raise two young children at age 55. Since he lists his birth as Virginia, in 1798 this included now West Virginia. My DNA linked roots to the Zebediah/Maurice Baker line shows this line moving, through, and some settling, in Tyler and Brooke counties, Virginia (now West Virginia). John may have rejoined his Baker family. Travel over the mountains would have also been difficult during those times, maybe he felt the children were just better off being adopted, or perhaps they were left there to be collected later after John established himself somewhere else, and he died. At any rate, it is likely that the people of Pulaski county probably new little of John and Matilda, as they seemed to have only been in Pulaski County a short time. This might lead to later confusion in both Eliza J and George W Baker listing their birthplaces as NC and Virginia, as noone was really sure. Eliza J's death certificate does list her birth as Surrey, NC, and parents John Baker and Matilda Thackney (Thacker). 

I'm fairly certain of this link. I'm further digging into linking this John to the Zebediah / Maurice Baker DNA line. There isn't much info on John Baker until he shows up in the 1850 census, and disappears after being listed in the 1853 death of his wife in Pulaski County, VA. But I feel it's another step closer!

Y-DNA Baker Line status
February 22, 2016 - 9:44:24 p.m.

My work on the Y-DNA male Baker line continues. As previously noted I am attempting to build this tree from the Y-DNA ancestor, Zebediah Baker (his grandfather is Maurice Baker, so this is actually the first Baker we know of) . I currently have about 800 people documented so far, and constantly adding and going back and checking verification for those already added. While I still haven't found the exact line yet, I pretty much have the movement of this family traced. They appear to have moved mainly from the Baltimore area of Maryland, into Eastern of then Pennsylvania near the upper "tip" of West Virginia, which was Virginia at that time. Then a branch of the Baker's moved down into Tyler County, Virginia (now West Virginia), and others across the river into Ohio, mainly Coshcoton County, where they appear to have been noted as early settlers there. Some of them later moved on to Illinois and Indiana. 

They Tyler West Virginia branch is interesting because it is almost directly above the New River Valley. Also there MAY have been a couple of the early Baker's who moved to Burke County NC. Records seem to indicate this, and it is generally believed, but definitively proving this via a direct record connection is tough. 

These two facts are interesting in that our known oldest Baker, George Washington Baker, indicates both Virginia and NC on different records as his birthplace. Considering that Tyler County was indeed Virginia when George was born in 1850, I'm looking very hard there. I have also hit a couple of DNA links through that line of Baker's to a few other people, but these are females, and the link is to the Blakemore family, which married into the Baker Family. There is a John Blakemore Baker. But since these are females, this does not indicate a positive Baker DNA link, those links would be through none male specific DNA if their father wasn't a Baker.  But the link is interesting nonetheless, and is worth looking at closer.

Until I find the definitive link, I am not integrating or "merging" the Baker's in the "research" tree into the well established tree Bakers of Southwest Virginia Tree. However I think I will upload this research tree here in the very near future, and update it every couple of months with the actual tree. This may help by attracting other Bakers of this family line who might be able to add some corrections or additional information.

Database Updated and Baker Male Y-DNA
December 15, 2015 - 1:34:10 a.m.

I have had my DNA tested using the Y-DNA. Y-DNA is used to track male father to father all the way up. This only applies to males, and is is a positive marker because it will only have a minor "mutation", if any at all. So all males descendants can be tracked back to a single individual. The Baker male DNA has been matched to about 20 other living persons. This DNA has been tracked back to the oldest single Baker in this particular DNA line known so far by records, This elder is Maurice Baker, born in England in 1640, and came to Virginia in 1651, landing on the Eastern Shore of Virginia. He then moved to Maryland. This Baker DNA group is collectively known as "The Baker's of Anne Arundel and Baltimore County, Maryland". THIS PARTICULAR RESEARCH IS ONGOING. THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 450 PEOPLE SO FAR RESEARCHED IN THIS PARTICULAR BAKER LINE FROM MAURICE. THEY ARE NOT YET INCLUDED IN THIS BAKER TREE, UNTIL FURTHER RESEARCH IS DONE. I ANTICIPATE ADDING THESE BAKERS BY FEBRUARY 2016.

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Current Tree Statistics
Individuals 3,297
Males 1,646
49.9%
Females 1,648
50%
Total surnames 591
Families 915
Sources 549
Media objects 3,592
Repositories 11
Total events 9,962
Total users 10
 
Earliest birth year 1207 King Henry III
Birth October 1, 1207 - Winchester, Hampshire, England
Death November 16, 1272 (Age 65) - Westminster, London, England
Latest birth year 2015 This information is private and cannot be shown.
Earliest death year 1264 Katherine Plantagenet
Death September 5, 1264 -
Latest death year 2015 Edrie Lottie May Baker
Birth August 23, 1918 41 37 - Montgomery, Virginia, USA
Death June 9, 2015 (Age 96) - Christiansburg, Montgomery, Virginia, USA
Individual who lived the longest 112 S. Jones
Birth May 5, 1800 - Patrick, Virginia, USA
Death June 23, 1912 (Age 112) - Patrick, Virginia, USA
Average age at death 65  
Family with the most children 16 Samuel Crandall + Sarah Worden
Marriage October 14, 1731 - Stonington, New London, Connecticut, USA
Average number of children per family 2.68  

Most common surnames
Agee, Baker, Bowman, Brugh, Crandall, Crider, Dickerson, Epperly, Gilmer, Gilmore, Graham, Guilliams, Hall, Herbert, Lane, Lovern, McPeak, Moore, Musselman, Plantagenet, Price, Purdy, Roop, Simpkins, Smith, Surface, Sweeney, Thompson, Todd, Underwood, Vest, Wade, Williams, Yearout

DETAILED FAMILY TREE DATABASE STATISTICS

AVERAGE NUMBER OF CHILDREN: 2.68
AVERAGE LIFESPAN: 65
AVERAGE LIFESPAN FOR FEMALES: 66
AVERAGE LIFESPAN FOR MALES: 63

MOST COMMON LAST NAMES

Yearout - 201, McPeak - 111, Gilmore - 101, Simpkins - 90, Surface - 85, Graham - 82, Todd - 68, Other - 2,546

 

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PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE WITH VALID SOURCE RECORDS

Individuals with sources

 

PERCENTAGE OF MALES AND FEMALES IN THE FAMILY TREE

Males - 49.9%, Females - 50%, Unknown - 0.1%

 

NUMBERS OF BIRTHS BY CENTURY

Births by century

 

LIFE EXPECTENCY BY CENTURY

Average age related to death century

 

AVERAGE NUMBER OF CHILDREN BY CENTURY

Average number of children per family

 

AVERAGE AGE AT MARRIAGE BY CENTURY

Average age in century of marriage

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